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You dont need to understand all the math. There's nothing wrong with obscuring what you're doing. You're not allowed to sit down in the middle of a shoe, so there is no "team play". This is the basic premise. It's simply an offer to bet on an outcome that, just like all the other bets, has a negative expectation of gain. But at the level I've played at, I've never seen any real repercussions from the house. The New England casinos run various games, and when the tables are slow, they'll announce a change in the odds at a particular table to draw in players. Of course, it might have changed since I used to play a lot. Re: Score: 2 by Deadstick writes: Much more accurate, and not at all ironic, would be "optimal play". Parent Share twitter facebook linkedin Re: Score: 2 by asuffield writes: Most of them aren't interested in "card counting". Re: Score: 2 by mog writes: Well, counting cards is already an obsolete method of trying to beat the system, because most good casinos use a combination of multiple decks of cards, and computer controlled shuffling machines to make it a futile effort. Back in ''01 I'd go to Las Vegas at least twice a month, and I'd count cards. And both of them have epic class A freakouts when someone smar. This is Slashdot, we're all nerds here. And what the infamous book didn't mention is that the casinos figured it out and changed the rules to break it. I said "You're right. If you do it poorly -- which you probably will, and they will know -- they'll treat you like a king. I could see him looking at me and talking on the phone to. If you have a system and it "works" for you, good on ya. Also, read "The Eudaemonic Pie", about a shoe device to predict roulette. If you blow half your paycheck every week waiting for your "luck" to change then you're an idiot. Both are large monolithic companies who make a rather large amount of money with archaic business practices and are reliant on their customers being ignorant. No, it's really no more of a scam or criminal act than, say, encrypting your email. Even if you are card counting you should never be doing math beyond basic arithmatic at the table. If the casino offers a game where the player has the advantage, a savvy player will take advantage of that. Watch as they give you a free room for being a "high roller". I will in fact "spell" it out to you. The casinos are just upset that someone is outsmarting them, and have enough money themselves to make an issue of it. They don't care how it's done. Kaplan's claims, I will say that, following the release of the book, and especially given the success of the movie, there have been several people who may or may not have been active card players at that time that have come out to falsely claim that the book is about them.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} In which case your descriptor is "Gaming the game", which is not only redundant, but also retarded as that's what you're supposed to do. That one is at least illegal.. The casinos are not going to kick you out for dumb luck, and they aren't going to kick you out if you seem to be card counting but aren't doing it very well. On the other hand, they will kick you out if they see perfect play and remember, everything you do at the table is seen by the eye in the sky. And you know this Score: 5 , Interesting by mattack2 writes: on Wednesday April 02, PM Exactly how is card counting a "scam"? A more accurate and ironic description would be "Gaming the system". None of that sounds overly disingenuous to me -- all of that sounds like standard teamwork and strategy. Re:What kind of job is that? They don't let you count cards because, if you're good enough to do it right, it has a positive expectation of gain. Re: Score: 3 , Insightful by Anonymous Coward writes: The "right way" is to stay away from normal play. I'd disagree slightly with this. I don't see any redundancy here. That was all they said. Will always offer decent chances to try and count, and throw out those w. You are correct that you can gain a little bit of an advantage by adding a few more rules to basic strategy but I dont think that this makes it substantially harder. Parent Share twitter facebook linkedin Re: Score: 3 , Insightful by cruelfood writes: No, it's really no more of a scam or criminal act than, say, encrypting your email. They were tresspassing, which is a criminal act. On top of just betting more, when you have good information about what cards are left, that also changes the 'right' actions in certain situations. Granted their are fools who may think otherwise and lose their lifesavings in turn. And looking at the table of 'perfect' blackjack strategy, the counts at which the 'right' move changes are different for each box. And counting cards is in no way scamming. And BTW, Blackjack is fun for most people; nothing really too mystical here for me when I play it on rare occasions. Memorizing that you hit a 12 on a dealers 3 when the count is less than X isnt much more difficult than the base case where you arent counting. The concept of "Gaming the system" is itself ironic I hope I don't have to explain why : Gaming the System means, simply, using the rules, policies and procedures of a system against itself for purposes outside what these rules were intended for. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Catch up on stories from the past week and beyond at the Slashdot story archive. The irony lies in the term itself, and as it is applied here to card counters. I don't know if that really meant anything or not, but I was smart enough to get the hint. But, soon those new machines that reshuffle the cards every hand will replace chutes and it'll be a moot point. It's not just the pit bosses who are reviewing your play. So that's why most people in Casino's don't do this, because they have already been banned or don't want to go through the effort. Some surrenders become stands. Not according to the Casino's, because if they find you doing this they will ask you to leave. These pros know it's a game not just the Game of Blackjack , but a game of out-witting the house detectives. They're using mathematics to beat the game, legitimately. The game in this case is the system, but more broadly it would be the Casino and it's practice of looking out for, and of banning card counters. The right way is to use a printed table with Perfect Strategy minimize losses , in Vegas free drinks! But I agree that team blackjack play can't be considered a scam, especially the part about having spotters waiting for a hot deck. They just watch the patterns of winnings of players, and throw out the ones who consistently win. She would wear slinky outfits and wildly changed hair colors and distract the pit bosses Re:What kind of job is that? Parent Share twitter facebook linkedin Re: Score: 2 , Informative by STrinity writes: Card counting isn't a scam, but some of the tricks they used to keep the house from twigging to what they were doing comes pretty close -- disguises, aliases, having lookouts stationed at different tables waiting for a hot deck, at which point they'd signal a team-mate to come over and law down the big bucks. I'm very tired", blacked out and left. The rngs spits out a number say from 1 to 10,, If it hits 9,,,, you win the 2nd best prize. For example, some hands that you always hit if you don't know what's in the chute may become hands you double-down instead. I wasn't perfect I'd lose the count every so often , but I still generally won more than I lost. Some stands become hits. Just knowing how the game is played, odds of various bets and knowing the correct amount you can bet, playing 'right' and 'wrong' best odds of any game in the house , paying attention to the play especially after a few drinks, buxom waitresses , staying away from 'sucker' bets, etc. There are bets all over the table that can involve the shooter losing his pass bet: the "boxcars" bet, for example. The irony is also apparent in the fact that the casino's have already "gamed" the system against it's customers from a profit perspective , especially considering that they can and will legally ban anybody whom they feel wins too much money. I've played a number of times at the Tropicana since then, and nobody has said anything to me. One would think that Slashdot readers would appreciate that. While I will not comment on any of the rest of Mr. Card counting isn't a scam, but some of the tricks they used to keep the house from twigging to what they were doing comes pretty close -- disguises, aliases, having lookouts stationed at different tables waiting for a hot deck, at which point they'd signal a team-mate to come over and law down the big bucks. Except that according to Bringing Down the House, they had been told not to come back to some of the casinos, and were using disguises to avoid being thrown out again. No big amount; it was just for fun. You can mitigate that by losing a bunch of money when you play and then the rooms are not so steep anymore. The one downside to the Wynn is you can't get to the pool unless you're a guest, and the rooms there are rather steep but very very nice. A lot machine is nothing more than a random number generator matched up against a win table. If the casino offer. Eventually he came up to me and suggested that I go back to my room and get some sleep. The casino can always change the rules of the game, or choose not to offer it. In a card-counting scenario as you lay out, I can understand how it would be important. Wanna bet on that? It's no such thing. It's pretty difficult these days to win with card counting, especially with six deck shoes, infinite shuffles, or two deck games that only deal out 2 hands before reshuffling. At a trivial level, instead of memorizing that you hit a 12 against a dealer's 3, you'd instead have to know that you hit a 12 against a dealers 3 when the count is less than Whatever. The real mastermind is Keyser Soze. It's more like "The greatest trick the house ever pulled, was convincing the gambler that he did not exist.